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        <title>Peace and Anti-war Advocacy Act Oxymoronic</title>   
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><span style="color: #000080">One would think “peace advocates” or “anti-war organizations” would demonstrate their grievances under the First Amendment in a peaceful manner. Let us see, what the definition is of “peace:”</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><span style="color: #000080"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">1. </span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">The absence of war or other hostilities. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><span style="color: #000080"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">2.</span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"> An agreement or a treaty to end hostilities. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><span style="color: #000080"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">3.</span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"> Freedom from quarrels and disagreement; harmonious relations: <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">roommates living in peace with each other.</em> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><span style="color: #000080"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">4. </span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">Public security and order: <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">was</em> <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">arrested for disturbing the peace</em>. </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><span style="color: #000080"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">5. </span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">Inner contentment; serenity: <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">peace of mind</em>. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><span style="color: #000080">- </span></span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><a href="http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/peace;_ylt=AvO5MVA3pyiOt1FuKYiH28WsgMMF"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Yahoo Education Dictionary</span></a></span></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"></span></p></blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><span style="color: #000080">Presumably the expression “anti-war” means the opposite of war or perhaps it means against war.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><span style="color: #000080">Now let us examine the emerging predilection of “peace advocates” and “anti-war organizations.” The predilection is to vandalize military recruitment centers, violent acts up to including bombing and the threat of violence if recruitment does not close their doors.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont">Hmm </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Xtraflexidisc">…</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"> These actions not only sound moronic but are the actions which are oxymoronic to the appellation of “peace advocacy” and “anti-war.”</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><span style="color: #000080">Here is a </span></span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,341695,00.html"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Fox News report</span></a></span></em></strong><span style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Gaumont"><span style="color: #000080"> that proves peace advocates and anti-war organizations act in an oxymoron hypocritical fashion. Such is the case we can label them morons.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman"><span style="color: #000080">This is the latest of the comment battle I have been having with Talha, a Mohammedan person who has taken exception to my penchant to reveal the politically incorrect truth about Mohammedanism. The original post was </span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://theway2k.vox.com/library/post/the-west-needs-to-understand-islamist-paradigm-of-war.html"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">The West Needs to Understand Islamist Paradigm of War</span></a></span></em></strong><span style="color: #000080">.</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman">if u have problem with the very point of people engaging in fighting at all, then WWII, japan, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan and iraq again, r gross violations of christianity. then u&#39;ll have to abolish the death penalty. then, saddam hussein should have lived, along with the entire hamas leadership. hitler should have lived, too.</span></span></span></em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman"><span style="color: #000080">Christians have developed a concept of what is a </span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://www.catholic.com/library/Just_war_Doctrine_1.asp"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Just War</span></a></span></em></strong><span style="color: #000080">. The theme is self-defense. Contrarily Mohammedans war to convert people to their cult, enslaved to an inferior social and civil right position or death. The death penalty is a point of argument between Christians in America for the very reasons you imply. In Europe, most nations have abolished the death penalty as punishment for heinous murderous crimes.</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">Yet in Middle Eastern nations and in Western Nations (if a Mohammedan can get away with it) War is still practiced according to the Mohammedan holy writings, also to mention frivolous death penalty executions for honor (whatever a Mohammedan perceives that to be) being violated, adultery, homosexuality and such are death penalty crimes. Most mysteriously to the Westerner who believes in Free Speech and Liberty, Mohammedans will execute individuals who might insult their psycho-prophet Mohammed or insult Islam in general.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">To Bible believing Christians (there are actually Christians on the Left that cherry pick Biblical Scripture and morality), practices such as homosexuality and adultery are sins accepted in secularized society. Bible believing Christians believes these sins are something to be repented of or the lifestyle will face judgment in the next life.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">Talha said:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman">but us see, sometimes it is necessary to fight in order to keep / restore peace. islam does not deal in doctrines that r unviable. u cant always turn the other cheek.</span></span></span></em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><br /><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">so having established the necessity for war, islam seeks to rein it in with proper standing procedures that ensure that cruelty and vengeful measures dont become the norm in war.</span></em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">So you are saying Mohammedanism has something comparable to a Just War concept. That is good.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">On the other hand the Islamist who says they follow the letter of the Mohammedan holy writings is NOT utilizing procedures to prevent cruelty and vengeful acts. Now days Islamists even attack their co-religionists if they fail their interpretation of Mohammedan holy writings.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">Talha said:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman">in simplest terms, as soon as war is necessitated for a christian nation, religions has to be chucked out the window, cuz ur religion doesnt tell u wat to do in such a situation. islam, on the other hand, gives u procedures regarding war and ensures that excesses r not committed even in war.</span></span></span></em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">Again Christians have the <em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Just War</em> concept and again Mohammedan war is brutal and savage even today in the modern world.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman">as per ur allegation of rape being allowed in islam, let me categorically state that <u>rape is not allowed in Islam</u>, in any circumstance. whether women be in a veil or they walk around threadbare, u cant rape them according to any islamic injunction.</p><p>back in the 600s, when women werent considered full citizens in any nation of the world (the US only gave them voting rights in the 1920s).</p><p>does rape occur in muslim nations, yes.<br />is there any country in the world which is completely free of rape? no.<br />does rape occur in america? yes.<br />does christianity allow rape? no.</p><p>so u see violations occur all around, which is not to say this is right. it is very, very wrong!!! but u also need to see, it is a <u>violation</u>, both of christianity and of islam.</span></span></span></em></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">In FACT the rape of fakir women is a part of the practice of humiliating fakir men. (The Fakir is the infidel or unbeliever in Mohammedanism.)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman"><span style="color: #000080">In Western Europe </span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/08/rape-nothing-to-do-with-islam.html"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">rape is an occurrence perpetrated on fakir women by Mohammedan males</span></a></span></strong><span style="color: #000080"> are on a scale way beyond the statistics of the rape of women by European males on European women or Mohammedan women. The statistics are so high that (at least at one time) Sweden and Norway refused to publish the statistics of Mohammedans raping European women.</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">The Islamic legal manual ‘Umdat al-Salik, which carries the endorsement of Al-Azhar University, the most respected authority in Sunni Islam, stipulates: <strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">“When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.”</strong> [Emphasis Mine]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">Anti-Jihad scholar Robert Spencer adds: “So that they are free to become the concubines of their captors. The Qur’an permits Muslim men to have intercourse with their wives and their slave girls: <strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">“Forbidden to you are ... married women, except those whom you own as slaves” (Sura 4:23-24)</strong>.” [Emphasis Mine]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">More from Robert Spencer about words from the lips of Mohammed to the ears of fanatical Islamic soldiers: “After one successful battle, Muhammad tells his men, “Go and take any slave girl.” He took one for himself also. After the notorious massacre of the Jewish Qurayzah tribe, he did it again. According to his earliest biographer, Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad “went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for [the men of Banu Qurayza] and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches.” After killing “600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900,” the Prophet of Islam took one of the widows he had just made, Rayhana bint Amr, as another concubine.</p><p><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Emerging victorious in another battle, according to a generally accepted Islamic tradition, Muhammad’s men present him with an ethical question: “We took women captives, and we wanted to do ‘azl [coitus interruptus] with them.” Muhammad told them: “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection.’” When Muhammad says “it is better that you should not do it,” he’s referring to coitus interruptus, not to raping their captives. He takes that for granted.</strong>” [Emphasis Mine]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman"><span style="color: #000080">Now to some of us who are not up on their Latin, coitus interruptus is defined as: “</span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://sexuality.about.com/od/sexualhealthqanda/f/withdrawal.htm"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Coitus interruptus</span></a></span></strong><span style="color: #000080"> is a Latin term meaning interrupted intercourse. It is the clinical term for the withdrawal method of contraception, which <strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">is when a male withdraws his penis from his female partner prior to ejaculating</strong>.” [Emphasis Mine]</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: grandesign neue roman">Talha I have to highly disagree with you that rape is not part of the cultural practice of Mohammedans toward women who are not Mohammedans.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="font-family: grandesign neue roman"><span style="color: #000080">[Source on Mohammedan rape: </span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/08/rape-nothing-to-do-with-islam.html"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Rape: Nothing to do with Islam</span></a>?</span></em></strong><span style="color: #000080">]<strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"></span></em></strong></span></span></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large"><span style="font-family: federationclassicmovie"><span style="color: #000080">This is YouTube video post by </span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://www.jtf.org/"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">JTF.org</span></a></span></strong><span style="color: #000080"> that everyone should see. I wish to thank </span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://twana.vox.com/"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">Twana’s Blog</span></a></span></em></strong><span style="color: #000080"> for alerting me of its existence (well really she wanted me to see something and I stumbled up on it). It is entitled, “</span><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="COLOR: maroon"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQFyhFNUtE"><span style="COLOR: maroon; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none">The Real Islam Revealed</span></a></span></em></strong><span style="color: #000080">.” Twana has it for friends only at Vox Blog so you may not be able to comment there; I am a bit more public and I am not afraid of the radicals blistering me with Islamofascist rhetoric.</span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: federationclassicmovie">I know there is a moderate Mohammedan that will not only be offended by “<em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">The Real Islam Revealed</em>” but will disagree with its message. That is because the silent majority of Mohammedans in the West practice their faith in relative peace in a 21<sup>st</sup> Century style rather than the retro Medieval Islamism advocated by radical Islamofascist terrorists of both Sunni and Shia persuasion. Nonetheless whether the quiet Mohammedans agree with the video or not, JTF.org is telling the truth about Mohammedan scriptures and practices of extremists that are more and more becoming the voice of Mohammedanism.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-size: x-large; color: #000080; font-family: federationclassicmovie">So you so-called Moderate Mohammedans that are out there, instead of whining about Islamophobia stand up for your moderation and become vocally condemning of the Islamists that is becoming the representative voice of Mohammedanism to non-Mohammedans.</span></p>
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