3 posts tagged “mormonism”
Dr. Rusty Shackleford writing for The Jawa Report was a fellow Fredhead as was I. Shackleford gets directly into his issue: If you were a Fredhead you should support Mitt Romney for he is the closest thing to a Conservative still running for the Republican nomination.
Shackleford heaps a tremendous amount of disdain upon Huckabee. I too am not certain Huckabee is the man. If he won the nomination the voters may perceive him as the Christian Right’s man God wants in Office. This is an extreme view for a lot of voters. Although I am not one of them, even Republicans might view Huckabee’s Ministerial credentials as a violation of the constitutionally non-existent concept of the “Separation of Church and State.”
Because of this voters may be swayed by whoever fringe Left Candidate the Democrats finally settle on. When it comes to a choice of radicalism, Americans tend to err on the side of the secular rather than the Christian these days.
Shackleford directly says voters that are put off by Romney’s Mormonism are clearly fringe social issue Christians who are not concerned about the Right Stuff that makes a total Conservative. Thus not voting for Romney because of Mormonism is bigotry. After all the new package Romney claims to have transformed his liberal Massachusetts social liberalism back to a Mormon friendly social Conservatism as well as being a fiscal Conservative who gets it about the War on Terror.
The truth is social Conservatism is not in Romney’s track record in Massachusetts. That bothers me!
And as far as bigotry, that is a way out there accusation. It is like the Left accusing Christians of bigotry for preaching or believing the Word of God which is definitely anti-homosexual and warns of cults using the name of Christ but teaching a different Gospel. Also the Left accuses Christians of bigotry toward Muslims when Christians defend their faith against Islamic belief, yet when Muslims call Christians and Jews as either sub-class citizens as being the “People of the Book” or outright call for a Christian’s and Jew’s death for their existence insults their Allah.
Shackleford is using Left Wing thinking to get Fredheads to support Romney.
In the Primary selection process of the Republican Nominee I am not voting for Romney because he is a Mormon and that is not bigoted, it is in line with my Christian faith.
There is a lot about Mormonism that the every day Mormon does not even know about. Mormonism is an elitist driven cult that requires promotion to know certain secrets somewhat like Gnosticism – Christianity’s early competitor in the first couple hundred years after the Resurrection of Christ.
And just so you don’t think I am spouting Conspiracy Theory, there are huge numbers of former Mormons that have come back to Christ that are involved in Christian Ministries that are dedicated to expose the differences between Mormonism and Christianity. Christians should not support Mormons for Public Office because of those differences.
Having said all that, I am extremely uncertain who I will support for the Republican nomination. There are simply too many intangible qualities of likes and dislikes of the remaining Republican Candidates.
So as a Fredhead I am not throwing my lot to Romney; however I am not necessarily throwing my lot to any other Candidate either.
This may surprise you after my dissing of Mormonism. I will throw my lot to whoever wins the Republican nomination; even if that person is Mitt Romney.
The reality of it all is this: the Democrats support godless socially liberal stances that would force me to vote for a self-proclaimed socially Conservative Romney. The other Republicans: McCain, Giuliani and Huckabee have a bit of the RINO liberalism in them but at least they are not fringe Leftists and they each have an aspect that I do like about them.
[NOTE: There is something way fishy about Ron Paul. It is no accident I did not include him Republicans that have aspects that I like.]
Whoever wins the nomination, I pray that Candidate entices Fred Thompson to be their Vice President. That would be an awesome team against the fringe Left Democrats.
The real point of it all is this: VOTE REPUBLICAN.
Mormon Apologists have said that the statement “Jesus and Satan are brothers” is a Mormon smear by Christians that do not accept Mormonism as a Christian denomination.
Frankly I am in the camp that believes that Mormonism is a cult with more in common with ancient Gnosticism of which some Gnostics incorporated Jesus Christ into their belief system. I believe devout Mormons have the same ethics as devout Christians; however the differences of Mormon theology is way outside theology of Christians that are Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants.
The primary difference is the Trinity.
The majority of Christians believe the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one God manifested in three persons. Trinity is total unity and uncreated and act as one much as a human being is a spirit, that has a soul (the mental faculties) and lives in a body. Humanity is three in one yet created.
The non-expert explanation of the Mormon Trinity is the “Godhead.”
The Father created spirits of which Jesus and Lucifer were of those created beings. For Christians that is an insinuation of brothers, for Mormons I guess it is an action of creating beings or spirits that will be housed by a body (remember not an expert).
Either way you look at it in the Mormon cult Jesus is a created being and not of the same nature as the Father.
From the pro-Mormon explanation I read of this, the Father placed the created Jesus as part of the Godhead. I don’t know how that works but it implies that the Uncreated Father and the created Jesus along with the Holy Spirit (I haven’t enough to know if the Holy Spirit is created or Uncreated) are part of the “Godhead.” Thus the “Godhead” is made up of created and Uncreated substance.
Now in typical Christianity the closest to the created and the Uncreated being one is ONLY in Jesus Himself. Jesus being fully God and Uncreated with the Father and Holy Spirit yet incarnated into the likeness of a human through the fully human Mary. Thus Jesus is fully Uncreated God and fully created (via incarnation) human. It is Jesus’ sinless humanity (because of the incarnation) that pays the price to redeem corrupted humanity (Deliverance and Salvation) by an unjustified condemnation to death. Thus the Resurrection power of God raised the God incarnate from death back to life restoring not only the Glorified substance of Godhood but Glorifying the human substance with a Glorified human body. Thus as Christ is so shall all be that trust in Him.
The Gnostic Mormon Jesus of being a created higher being that will lead lower beings to godhood simply does not line up.
So for Mike Huckabee to ask, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?" is a legitimate question for Christians to ask. Mormons may not agree with the Christian interpretation; nonetheless no matter how you go about it, Jesus is considered just as much a created being as Lucifer in Mormonism. The former joined the Mormon “Godhood” and the latter rebelled against his Creator Father transforming from Lucifer to the Adversary Satan.
Do Romney and any other American have the right to believe this cult as their religion? Of course they do, this is America in which freedom of religion is a stellar right not to be abridged by the Government.
Do Christians have the right to question the legitimacy of Mormonism as a Christian denomination? Absolutely! Mormonism does not meet the basic standard as Christianity.
Now if we can get the Christians together and drop their petty differences over Pentecostalism, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditionalism and sanctified rituals among other truly trivial differences; then Christians can begin to stop accusing each other as not being Christians.
I do not want a Mormon President; however I especially do not want a godless Leftist that subscribes to Secular Humanism as the standard of morality that either denies the Creator or views the Creator as a mythos philosophical system that is archaic and outdated relative to modern comparative morals. That system makes the creation superior to the Creator. As a Christian, I view that as bad news.
So here is the way I see it, I will vote Republican no matter who wins the nomination. Even a socially liberal Giuliani would be better than a Democratic Party Leftist.
That is right Lefties; I am placing religion in politics. Good faith makes for the best opportunity to reverse the violence and moral degradation the Democrats have supported and transformed this nation in which the rule of law accepts homosexuality and pornography as freedom of expression. That is simply Constitutional manipulation allowing the portion of the Judiciary that is Leftist to exterminate Christianity. And frankly, that is specifically against the First Amendment. Keeping religion out of government is prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The government is only to insure that no religion be adopted as a State religion and even that inference is toward Christian Denominations. Non-Christian religions were not in the thought processes of the Founding Fathers – even the Deists.
Before those of the Judaic faith hammer at me, I believe there were Jews in the Thirteen Colonies thus I believe the inference relates to the Judaic faith of which the incarnate God Jesus was wholly a member in the thirty-three years He walked the earth as a Son of Man.
Vote Republican to hold off Secular Humanism social agenda to transform America into a secular non-Christian hedonistic nation.
I am not a Mormon. I believe Mormon beliefs are not Christian beliefs. I believe Mormon beliefs place Mormonism in the realm of a cult that is closer to Gnostic-Christianity rather legitimate Christianity.
Having said that: What about Mitt Romney?
I believe Romney is a good man with morals that many Christians in this day and age fail to live up to. I say that not knowing Romney; however I have known some Mormons (via work etc.) in my time. The Mormons I have known have a moral system that is conducive to the Christian Right.
I consider Mormonism to be a Christian heresy. I believe practicing Mormons to be engaged in a theology that even many of them do not comprehend. Sensitive questions are rarely answered with a straight answer but rather with a defensive deflection move the questioner off the point.
Knowing how I feel about Mormonism, would I vote for Mitt Romney for President?
During the primaries the answer would be NO. If Romney is the Republican nominee, the answer is a diminutive yes. A moral/Conservative Romney would be a better President than a so-called Progressive (oft times godless) Democrat that believes that Christian morality is an archaic belief system.
The Stiletto has some comments on Mitt and Mormonism. You really should read The Stiletto on Mormonism and Mitt’s candidacy.
