8 posts tagged “birth certificate”
Michael Savage interview Orly Taitz on his Radio broadcast yesterday on August 3. The portion I listened had plenty to say about President Barack Hussein Obama’s natural born citizen status but I did not hear anything about Taitz’s discovery of an Obama Kenyan birth certificate.
I am guessing Taitz is abandoning the birth certificate as authentic or at least backing away from it. I am certain if Taitz felt strongly about its authenticity show would make the focus of the interview about the birth certificate document more than the usual ‘natural born citizen’ as the theme of the interview.
Too bad, I was kind of wishing Taitz had enough faith in the document authenticity to put up a very public campaign focusing on President BHO’s penchant for being a prevaricator.
JRH 8/4/09
I admire the Birthers. These are the folks that are determined to seek the information about President Barack Hussein Obama’s birth place to confirm whether or not he is an American citizen that is eligible for the Office of President he was elected to in November 2008.
There have been many individuals and Slanted Right organizations that have filed in court after court in State after State to force BHO to show his original long form Hawaiian birth certificate as opposed to the short form which Birthers believe does not verify with certainty BHO’s birth place. Apparently Hawaiian law allows people born outside of the USA who are children of at least one Hawaiian citizen can file some sort of paper that can list their birth as being in Hawaii. If this is indeed the case the Birthers believe BHO does not qualify for President.
Now leaving aside the Constitutional issues in which an American citizen born outside the 50 States can be considered a natural born American citizen, the Birther argument stands on BHO being born in Kenya as a British citizen as part of the colonial British Common Wealth of the day.
Hence one of the keys is not only the “where” but also the “when.”
President Barack Hussein Obama was born on August 4, 1961. The Birthers believe this was in Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. BHO and the cadre of Leftists maintain the short form birth certificate validates the President was born in Honolulu, HI. (YouTube)
Orly Taitz seems to be the Supreme Leader of the Birthers these days. Taitz appears to be the Birther who has found the smoking gun birth certificate that places President Barack Hussein Obama’s birth in Kenya. She has this birth certificate in Court I understand to authenticate it.
The cadre Left have already began their surly lingo to discredit the authenticity of the Kenya birth certificate by pointing out BHO’s birth date is August 4, 1961 in the Republic of Kenya. The little item of information the Left has jumped on is the fact that Kenya became an Independent nation (The link of this particular Leftist moron – as of this post - has independence down as 1964) on December 12, 1963.
This is the typical twisting of truth to meet a Leftist expectation. Kenya’s formal Independence was actually transitional process between Britain and the future Republic of Kenya. That process stretched from 1960 to 1963. I am welling to bet many that during this transitional process many nationalistic public places (such as hospitals) were already writing Republic of Kenya rather than the British Colony of Kenya.
Here are some excerpts that prove the transition period:
In 1960, the principle of African independence was finally accepted, although the next three years were marked by intense political struggles and negotiations over Kenya's political future. It was during this period that political factionalism began to rear its ugly head that would haunt postcolonial Kenya. At the root of this factionalism, which became less ideological and more ethnic and regional, lay the conjuncture of approaching independence in a society suffering from acute uneven development. Uneven development in Kenya, as in other colonies, corresponded to, and was intersected by, regional, ethnic, and class factors. In spite of the emergency-in fact, because of it-the Central Province, populated mostly by the Kikuyu, had continued its relatively fast level of development.
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Underlying the broader regional cleavages, there were local social, economic, and political divisions that provided the basis for local factional and leadership rivalries and future inter-ethnic and inter-regional political realignments. In fact, both KANU and KADU, formed following the Lancaster House Constitutional Conference in 1960, were basically loose coalitions with weak central party machinery, so that almost from the beginning they were given to internal political splits and realignments. The fact that these parties were formed in the midst of the transition to independence meant that there was not enough time to consolidate the party structures and therefore institutionalize the inter-party competition. Hence the relative ease with which KADU dissolved itself into KANU in November 1964. (P.T. Zeleza)
And again here:
From the time of State of Emergency being lifted to independence in 1963, things moved quickly. The British Government, pushed along by Harold Macmillan's 'Wind of Change' speech, opened negotiations that had always been inevitable with the African leaders. A constitutional conference was held at Lancaster House in London in January and February 1960, that led to a transitional constitution legalizing political parties and giving Africans a comfortable majority on the Legislative Council. The Kenya African National Union (KANU) - the successor to the KAU - was subsequently inaugurated, adopting a firm stance on land resettlement in the highlands. M'boya and James Gichuru became the leaders of KANU because Kenyatta remained in detention. Other African politicians, who were wary of Kikuyu-Luo domination, favoured a more federalist government; to this end, they formed the Kenya African Democratic Union (KADU).
When Kenyatta was released in August 1961 (the same month the Berlin Wall went up), he formed an all-party government and accepted the KANU presidency. At the legislative elections in May 1963, KANU triumphed over KADU with 124 seats opposed to 83, and Kenyatta was elected prime minister. The country's first internal self-governing administration was formed on 1 June 1963 amid scenes of unparalleled joy, and Kenya was formally declared Independent on the 12th of December, 1963. (Kikuyu – The Mau Mau Uprising and Independence: The Winds of Change 1960-63)
Hence it is not unrealistic that a hospital still under British Colonial rule during the transition issue birth certificates to Black babies born to Black Muslim fathers under the name of the Republic of Kenya which would become official in 1963.
WorldNetDaily has the original scoop on Taitz probably because they have been following and aiding the Birther claims for some time.
Associated Content provides an attempt of an unbiased report on Taitz’s discovery yet is obviously tainted with conspiracy theory bias.
Just for fun read Geoff Linsley’s short article from Examiner.com originating Oklahoma City. Linsley is obviously pro-Birther and writes the conspiracy angle using footnotes to prove his point. Linsley’s point appears to be the Birther issue is a Barack Hussein Obama and some big banker conspiracy illustrated by BHO’s beneficence in the bail-out to some of these bankers that donated heavily in his campaign run for the Presidency.
Rational Liberty has an awesome post about President Barack Hussein Obama. The RL post examines the BHO personality cult, the birth certificate controversy, the Leftist agenda and more. This is an awesome piece of writing that the Conservative mind will truly appreciate.
JRH 6/12/09
I guess I am gratified there are some stalwart Conservatives that are refusing to lay down over the issue of President-Elect Barack Hussein Obama’s status as a “Natural Born Citizen.” I have alluded my thoughts that I believe the Constitution gives a lot of leeway for Congress to interpret Article 2, Section 1 of what constitutes a “Natural Born Citizen” which one has to be to qualify to be elected to President of the United States (POTUS).
I would love to see President-Elect Obama disqualified from taking Office on legal merits but I just don’t think it is going to happen. For one thing both Houses of Congress by the graciousness of the American voters has placed the Democratic Party in FIRM control. I suspect if the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) would ever have the guts to hear a case (and there are several) concerning BHO’s citizenship eligibility, SCOTUS would merely address Congress to produce definitive clarity to the satisfaction of the sitting Justices’ illuminated interpretation of Constitutional Law.
You can check HERE and HERE of posts I have made related to this issue.
You might be able to guess that I get a lot of paid ads from Internet periodicals that have to pay their bills. One such ad came from the United States Justice Foundation (USJF). In this case I am not going to post the ad; however the ad had an interesting link to a USJF article dated Dec. 15, 2008 by Joan Swirsky.
Swirsky makes a case for Conservatives to keep fighting for the SCOTUS to hear one of the several law suits questioning BHO’s Natural Born Citizen status. She even employs some of the Conspiracy Theories that are beginning to emerge surrounding BHO’s Birth Certificate and Natural Born Citizenship.
I love a good Conspiracy Theory. Don’t you?
Here is one that Swirsk does not mention:
BHO has entered the realm of the Clinton Cabal utilizing Clinton power and Mainstream Media affinity to hush ANYTHING that might hinder a BHO Presidency.
What do the Clintons get out of BHO joining the Cabal? Re-entrance to the stage of actual political power.
Basically BHO and the Clintons have much of the same domestic goals of transforming America; ergo a union is a win-win situation for the charismatic Barack Hussein Obama and the Clinton stratagem.
What do you think? Come on, really. What do you think?
I don’t know. Maybe the valiant Conservatives utilizing a primarily Leftist American judicial system may overturn the correct stone that either the eligible voting public, Congressional members or even SCOTUS cannot ignore.
Anything is possible.
JRH 12/16/08
I just finished reading a day old email with a Frontpagemag.com letterhead by David Horowitz. The subject on the email: “A Message to Disgruntled Conservatives: Get Over It!” Horowitz’s blog has a different title yet apparently the same content: Birth certificate, Hussein name, Hillary garbage.
Horowitz actually writes a very supportive article for Barack Hussein Obama. Horowitz basically writes the Conservatives that are going after the Birth Certificate issue of BHO’s citizenship (Some are calling Obamagate) is “right-wing trash talk.”
Now check this out: David Horowitz is one of the true heroes working to educate Americans about the nature of Islam/Mohammedanism. This makes Horowitz a hero in my book; however this article is laced with self-righteous anger.
Horowitz claims the significant of amount voters that elected Obama renders irrelevant the veracity or the lack of veracity of Obama’s citizenship. Horowitz even goes so far as to NOT bring up the U.S. Constitution because the will of the voters overrides the letter of law in the Constitution.
Horowitz goes on to rail Conservatives about the attitude given toward Hillary as Secretary of State and the accusation that BHO is a closet Islamist Muslim. I have to say on the last two points I am in complete agreement with Horowitz.
Although Hillary is a domestic societal change Leftist, her record in the Senate has demonstrated a good grasp of foreign policy and the need to fight the Islamic terrorists. This is in contradistinction from BHO’s thoughts of not setting any pre-conditions for negotiations with America’s enemies.
As for being a Muslim, I don’t believe it one bit. I do believe BHO has been ensconced in Islamic culture and the typical pro-Arab and anti-Israel Leftist stand pertaining to how things should work out politically in the Middle East.
I am still convinced BHO is a closet Marxist because of past associations with avowed Marxists that have influenced everything to an entrance into Harvard to working on Slanted Left community solutions with an unrepentant oxymoron anti-war yet violent American terrorist who sought the destruction of the American government to establish a Marxist utopia. (Ayers claimed he did not kill anyone in his bombing days however booklets and eyewitness infiltrators demonstrate a willingness to kill Americans who did not conform to the envisioned Marxist utopia.)
Whether or not the BHO’s birth certificate of original birth exists or demonstrates a birth in Hawaii or Kenya is important because the cloud of darkness illustrates a propensity to lie.
The influence of Black Liberation Theology (BLT) Marxist Jeremiah Wright (ergo racist) is downplayed by BHO. Only a gullible sucker could believe that – it’s a BHO lie. This BLT influence extends to Wrights good Chicago community buddy Black Muslim racist Louis Farrakhan no matter the verbal BHO denials.
I do have to admit though that BHO’s Cabinet choices are way more centrist than the obvious ideology that BHO gravitates toward. Maybe BHO is an American first and a Leftist Marxist second. Time will tell with that.
The thing I disagree with Horowitz the most is his concept that votes override the U.S. Constitution. This very same attitude is how a Slanted Left judiciary in America has disdained Constitutional interpretation for Constitutional transforming to fit the Bench’s view of how a Constitution should evolve without the involvement of people and Congress.
Personally I would be flabbergasted if SCOTUS even looks at the BHO’s birth certificate issue on the merit that the Governor of Hawaii (a Democrat) has certified BHO was born in Hawaii. Once a SCOTUS decides to not even look at the various civil suits concerning place of birth and citizenship, the issue will become moot and something to be scrutinized by curious historians in the future.
So far I have come across only one avowed Conservative (via the old GOOGLE) who believes David Horowitz has shown his true colors. Patrick Krey posting on the blog Political Class Dismissed takes the paleocon opportunity to call David Horowitz a neocon ergo a closet Leftist.
Now it is true those that are pegged as neocons (which is a group of people that hardly have monolithic agreement) have Leftist and even Marxist roots. Paleocons miss the fact these multifaceted EX-Leftists are “EX.” An epiphany occurred that Leftist/Marxist ideology is a failed pattern to govern for the greater good. Hence the ex-Leftist and/or ex-Marxist became Conservatives yet with a different twist: the promotion of global Democracy as a means toward peace rather than conquest and forced re-education camps or executions. Basically the loose difference between Paleocons and Neocons is the former emphasizes less government involvement with individuals and a domestic non-international perspective while the later emphasizes the use of military strength to rid the world of despots and terrorists strengthening global interdependence via democratic institutions.
This is what makes Neocons great educators on the nature of Islam trying to overcome the Politically Correct subculture which both the Left and many on the Right bow toward.
PC culture is like a domestic family in a row boat. The leader tells the family not to rock the boat so that no one gets hurt. All the while hooligans are hiding around the bend to do more than rock the family leader’s boat, they plan to capsize it and take their possessions. Kill the males and abuse the females.
Maybe the leader sees the trouble coming around the bend. The leader still tells the family not to rock the boat. The leader will speak with the hooligans and surely have the moral imperative to not hurt humans for the purpose of self-aggrandizement.
The hooligan leader says sure, turning to smile at his fellow hooligans. Hooligan leader says, “Come to shore and we will respect your humanity as the hooligans in the background sharpen their knives in preparation for the acquisition of easy booty.
So I have to say I do not agree with Horowitz concerning constitutional issues yet he still is a hero for being one of many educating America and the West that there are Islamic hooligans that cannot be trusted.
JRH 12-2-08
Apparently there are a slew of law suits (some still active yet many dismissed) out there still challenging that Barrack Hussein Obama – President Elect – is a natural born citizen. I still believe that if President Elect Obama is discovered to have been born in Kenya or that there is something funky about his Hawaiian birth certificate that BHO is still eligible on legal terms to have been elected President because his mother is a natural born citizen.
I praise the American citizens trying to discover the truth. If or when (probably never) the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) decides to force the showing of the original birth certificate, I suspect it flashed a light on just how much a liar Obama is. He did not show his birth certificate history to be public knowledge because he would be declared ineligible. As with the bleak lack of Mainstream Media vetting about BHO’s past and present associations, the birth certificate could demonstrate him a deceptive prevaricator of the worst kind.
The information could have placed a big snag in the mind of the voters as to the integrity of Barack Hussein Obama thus leading to the election of a McCain/Palin Presidency instead of the current outcome.
Why do I believe the voters could have been swayed? I was watching Fox and Friends this morning and they showed a clip of Bill Ayers in an interview that was post Election 2008. The purpose of the interview was to re-promote the old terrorist’s book that was released in 2001. Fox and Friends pointed out there is a new afterward or epilogue (or whatever) at the end of the book praising BHO as one of his family friends.
HELLO! BHO in the 2008 campaign over and over again claimed to have barely known Bill Ayers and that BHO was like eight years old when Ayers perpetrated destruction on the American government up to and including the Marxist take-over of America that would included a Cambodia Khmer Rouge like purge (meaning genocide) of American citizens that did not agree with or could hamper the Ayers’ vision of an American Marxist revolution.
Ayers’ expression of friendship with President Elect Obama is an example of Obama prevarication. It is the kind of prevarication if understood by the Independent voters who placed Obama in office quite possibly would have voted another way.
Again the birth certificate issue is a non-issue as far as legality; however a ray of truth may shine a light on what to expect from the lips of Barack Hussein Obama for the next four years.
God have mercy on America’s soul.
JRH 11/14/08
The Law Suit brought by Philip Berg to challenge Barack Hussein Obama’s citizenship status to be constitutionally eligible to be elected President has not been a part of the Mainstream Media (MSM). Actually I can understand the MSM dismissal as newsworthy as to the particulars of the Law Suit.
So let’s presume all the above is true. Would that make Barack Hussein ineligible to be President of the USA? I mean I am no constitutional expert but I thought the qualifications was to be at least age 35 and American citizen born from at least one American parent. If I am wrong in that understanding someone point me to the constitutional law that is specific.
I am guessing Berg believes that a person has to be born on USA soil to qualify to be elected President.
So here’s the deal: Berg’s law suit was dismissed in Federal Court. Judge Surrick ruled Berg lacked standing to bring such a law suit because he was just a mere citizen of the USA. The implication a special citizen in government such as a Congressman or Executive Department are the only ones eligible to bring such a suit.
Now I think Berg’s law suit is frivolous thinking the Courts would rule anything against BHO; however Judge Surrick’s ruling restricts the typical U.S. citizen from questioning the legitimacy of a candidate for President questioning his citizenship.
THAT IS POORLY WORDED JUDICIAL HOGWASH!
If the Judge just would have did his job to rule on the law suits merits and decide to continue or not continue it is quite likely BHO would have been certified that his mommy was an American citizen. So what if it was discovered BHO was born in Kenya rather than in Hawaii. Mommy was an American citizen.
Now the dipstick Judge may have placed the election into a Constitutional Crisis if the Supreme Court rules there are indeed a “standing” for an American citizen to ask for proof of documented citizenship.
JRH 10/31/08
Could Barack Hussein Obama not be eligible to run for U.S. President? Apparently some forensic analysis has been done on BHO’s Birth Certificate that was posted on the Moonbat blog Daily Kos. The conclusion by the analysts was the Birth Certificate was a forgery.
Now before the Right hails an “AHA!” moment, there are a couple things to consider.
1. The analysis was performed under the auspices of the Israel Insider which is not exactly a pro-Obama group (bless there hearts).
2. BHO is entrenched into the American Leftists as the second coming of the Leftist Messiah, I doubt any traction will be allowed to prove or disprove BHO’s path to American citizenship.
Nonetheless, this simply adds to the continuously build up of scandalous associations and history that should make an American with any sense to wonder why there is such a cloak and dagger darkness relating to information on a potential President of the United States of America.
VOTE MCCAIN!
JRH 8/8/08