THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD'S INFILTRATION OF THE WEST

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Well, if the man is an "expert", we had better believe what he says. Oh, wait, but what about the other experts hawking other agendas? Oh, since they are called experts, we have to believe them too.

Math You are such a wet blanket. Just say you disagree with him even though he has cited his work.

Doing that would not point out the effort to muster authority. When people have something to say, they can say it, and hopefully examine the facts.

When people try to throw around references to experts and authorities, they appear to act like the peacock whose feathers fan out without substance, to fool the foolish into thinking there is something there.

You refer to people who agree with you as experts. Others refer to statements in disagreement as "expert" and "authoritative. The discourse is dragged down.

Note the news from Egypt that the ruling party of Hosni Mubarak (our corrupt and inept ally) - in anticipation of upcoming "democratic elections" - threw in jail 375 members of the Muslim Brotherhood leadership. They also have exerted control over who can be on the ballots, basically reducing the election to a one-party charade.

Who is the enemy of democracy? The Muslim Brotherhood who wants to participate in the election but can't? Or the Mubarak govt?

Both, the first is a despot and the latter would use democracy to mandate the dictatorship of Sharia Law. Neither are pleasant.
Math to answer your previous comment. You are absolutely correct that I use experts I agree with. Don't we all?

Way, a recommended alternative to selecting experts is to develop views that work across experts. Also experts can be used to check on each other's excesses and selectivity. Humans sense better when using various senses as check and balance. We would do better not to rely on any of them just to confirm our assumptions.

On the Sharia question, that is a topic of debate (has been for years) in the various incarnations of the MB (Jordan and Egypt, etc). Some say let's just participate in government. Some say the govt is corrupt and needs to be replaced. When Condi and Shrub embrace a Mubarak govt (also Musharraf and other despots) instead of pushing them toward democracy, it encourages the extremists in the muslim world and supports their arguments.

Instead of jailing Brotherhood candidates, why not coopt them into a multiparty political system that allows for debate and reform?

Math in this day and age there is so much polarization among political experts I doubt cross checking will be effective in finding an agreed middle ground except in cases of irrefutable smoking gun evidence. Even with the smoking gun the Left and the Right will come up with a spin to substantiate their own position. Unfortunately scholarly endeavors in the blurry inexact sciences in which conclusions are derived by agenda rather than cooperation is the rule of the present. Maybe the more exact sciences such as the various forms of Math that rely on verifiable equations will have an influence in the future. Let us pray so.

I suspect if Mubarak allowed the MB to run in in free democratic elections in which the choice between radical Islam and the status quo (yet illusory) Arab Nationalism of Muburak's power base, I suspect chaos would ensue as is now occurring in Pakistan. Frankly that is not in the National Interest of America (although the potential of internal chaos in Egypt might be momentarily amusing to Israel). With more and more Muslims finding pride in promoting the glories of the Islamic past for the present and the future, a democratically elected radical Islamist organization would probably lead to more West/Muslim strife than solve it.

Until another energy source can be found, the threat of a radical Islam controlling all the Middle Eastern Oil would lead to military action even by the most Appeasement Minded of the West eventually. Although Egypt is not an oil rich Muslim nation, an MB democratic or revolutionary victory in Egypt would affect Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Between those two nations are a significant amount of the world's Oil production.

The West would fight for economy and the Muslims for a radical spread of theo-political ideology hopefully leading to a global Caliphate.

Ugly stuff.

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